RMGROUP mail
November 1996


Subject: Trick or Treat!!
H A P P Y   H A L L O W E E N 

                         E V E R Y O N E !!
...Sally..

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Subject: Mad Hatter

This is from the Batman: The Animated Series episode guide at
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/eponine

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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MAD AS A HATTER ****1/2
10/12/92 (#27)  Story and teleplay by Paul Dini.  Directed by Frank
Paur.  Animation by AKOM.

   The Mad Hatter origin: Jervis Tetch, a scientist at Wayne
   Enterprises, creates a mind control device and attempts first to
   woo his young receptionist Alice and then to totally dominate her.
   Batman and the Mad Hatter have a deadly confrontation in an Alice
   in Wonderland amusement park filled with costumed mind-controlled
   slaves.

   This is one of the most touching shows of the series.  You
   sympathize with the love-sick Jervis Tetch, and almost feel sad for
   him when his dreams of Wonderland don't come true.  The emotional
   impact of the story is helped immeasurably by AKOM's surprisingly
   good animation of subtle facial expressions and body language.  And
   Roddy McDowall's performance as the Hatter helps sell the story
   completely. "Paul Dini really excels at those doomed love stories,"
   noted producer Bruce Timm.

   "It's one of my favorite scripts," said director Frank Paur. "Paul
   Dini does some wonderful stuff with characters.  I started getting
   my regular storyboard crew together on this one:  Rondaldo Del
   Carmen, Butch Lukic, and Lorenzo Martinez.  Ronnie does these
   wonderful, fully expressive drawings, he's very good with the
   acting- 'A fucking genius,' said Bruce Timm- Butch is really able
   to do a lot staging the action sequences.  Lorenzo has a Disney
   background and his boards are lovely to look at, full of mood and
   character.  While it's AKOM's best show, we still had close to a
   hundred retakes on it."


PERCHANCE TO DREAM ****

10/19/92 (#30)  Story by Laren Bright and Michael Reaves.  Teleplay by
Joe Lansdale.  Directed by Boyd Kirkland.  Animation by Dong Yang.

   Batman is knocked unconcious chasing criminals and wakes up in a
   world where his parents are still alive and someone else is Batman.
   In fact, Bruce Wayne's engaged to Selina Kyle, who's not Catwoman.
   Eventually, he rejects this reality and confronts his alter-ego in
   a dynamic battle in a church tower during a tremendous storm.  In
   the flashes of lightning, the real villain is revealed.

   Story editor Michael Reaves explained the genesis of the show:
   "Alan Burnett had the idea of Batman waking up one morning and
   finding out he'd never been Batman.  It was a very TWILIGHT ZONE
   sort of concept that I really liked. He gave it to (story editor)
   Laren Bright for an outline, but was not satisfied with her take on
   it.  She didn't take the idea as far as it could go.  This is a
   story who even though he's been given the opportunity for his most
   important dream to come true, has to have the truth no matter how
   much it hurts.  He can't live a lie.  I rewrote it with that in
   mind and I assigned the teleplay to Joe Lansdale, who did a
   terrific job.  His dialogue carried the show.  I think it's one of
   our best episodes."

   The show is a wonder, taking a potentially cliched idea and making
   it work beautifully.  Credit the voice characterizations of Kevin
   Conroy and Roddy McDowall.  Conroy not only did the voice of Batman
   but also Bruce Wayne, Wayne's father and the evil Batman, reading
   the script in real time, alternating between characters in a grand
   performance.  McDowall, as The Mad Hatter, the villain behind the
   deceptions, reaches new heights as the man so tortured by Batman
   that he was willing to give his gravest enemy whatever he desired,
   as long as it kept him out of his life.  McDowall's tirade at the
   end of the episode is a tour de force full of astonishment and
   anger.

   Noted Timm of directing McDowall, "In the recording session, we had
   to push him.  We told him he had to be more angry.  He couldn't
   quite do it..  We finally told him to go as far as he could go.
   Take it way over the top.  Way over what he normally would do if he
   was in a theater.  With that he gave us the intensity we wanted."


THE WORRY MEN ****
9/16/93 (#65) Story and teleplay by Paul Dini.  Directed by Frank
Paur.  Animation by Dong Yang.

   After a party thrown by Veronica Vreeland, Gotham City's
   millionaires start robbing their own companies of millions.  How
   does this tie in to the mysterious Mayan witch doctor that Batman
   found stalking the party?  It probably has something to do with
   those South American Worry Men dolls that Vreeland gave away at her
   party. Another wonderful mystery in a series that has some doozies.

   Once again, the Mad Hatter is brought to life through the amazing
   voice characterization of Roddy McDowall.  The Hatter gloats over a
   captured Batman, telling him every detail of his brilliant
   insidious plot that even snared $20 million from Bruce Wayne.  It
   was a scene that worried director Frank Paur.  "It's about a page
   and a half of dialog!  And Roddy McDowall is just wonderful, if
   anyone else had done this it would have been flat, but just
   listening to him was like listening to music as he was going
   through all this stuff."

   Paur explains the key to the Mad Hatter's menace, "He's probably
   the villain who hates Batman the most, because Batman stopped him
   from getting the woman he loved.  It's really personal with him."

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Subject: Angel Cry film

Hi!

For anybody wondering about that 'Angel Cry' film that, I think, Mel found surfing on RM stuff, here's the deal with that according to the website that it came from:

Hi Sally -- Dana forwarded your message to me. As far as I know, Angel Cry hasn't started production. However, you can call director Vahe Mansourian at Lucine Entertainment (213) 461-2311. He should be able to help you.
Thanks!
Veronica Hill (Staff Writer)

Anybody have the guts to call this director and ask about it?

...Sally..

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Subject: RM Cruise update

HERE's that article on the CRUISE (and what a cruise!) with RM:

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The Theatre Guild of New York is sponsoring a Cruise With the Stars sailing Jan. 2.

This two-week cruise, from Fort Lauderdale to Brazil and then up the Amazon River, features performances by Patricia Neal, Cliff Robertson, Zoe Caldwell, Gena Rowlands, Lee Roy Reams, Roddy McDowall and at least one more celebrity.

Other activities include sketches from musical shows, informal talks by the actors and actresses, three parties with the stars, at least seven nights of theater performances and films, and a dance recital in the famed Teatro Amazonas, the elaborate 19 th-century Opera House in Manaus, Brazil.

The ship is the 620-passenger Stellas Solaris of Royal Olympic Cruises. Cruise fares start at $3,835, with the second passenger in the cabin paying $525. For more information, call (800) 752-9732.

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Okay, anybody have that kind of money for this cruise in a lifetime? If so, I'm willing to come along as the second passenger!!! ;-)

(crying my heart out)
...Sally..

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Subject: Re: RE: Tidbits DE V

Paul, what do you want to know about this? Yes, it's true he is
working on DE V.
One of us back in March had Judy ask him about DE V.
Answer: No idea when Double Exposure V will be ready; said he
might do a book signing tour but not sure. Each book takes "about

four years."

Four years is too long! I want it now!! :(
I wonder if Roddy has ever thought to add his own picture to his portfolio?!?!

-Paul
crah@toolcity.net

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Subject: Grass Harp

Hi everyone,

I saw Grass Harp today. It is only playing in one theatre here right now and it happened to be within a ten mile radius of home.

IMO, it's a very charming movie, nothing like the stuff that's being playing in movie theaters these day. A very charming and lovely movie. I say this because it takes place back in the early 30's in a small southern town where everyone knows everyone. Most of the characters are old-timers like our grandparents or great-grandparents as the case maybe. The whole movie revolves around two rich spinster sisters living together (one strong willed, the other meek). I'll say no more for those who have yet t o see it.

Roddy's character (the town's gossiping barber, Amos) has quite a few scences to satisfy this RM fan for a little while. ;-) He even has a very real southern accent; of course, you southerns will have to judge this for yourselves. I would strongly recom mend seeing this film.

...Sally..

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Date: Mon Nov 04 17:27:01 1996
Subject: RE: Tidbits DE V


Hey Ya'll,

Did you knoe thah RODDY is also the voice of"The Breadmaster" on the Sat., morning cartoon........The TICK? Yep!!!! :) :) :) So please write to The Tick doll Co., and see if they'll make a "Breadmaster" action figure!!!!!!!


XOXOXOXO,
Heather Lovatt

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Subject: Gold Monkey writer

Howdy Folks!

Good ol' Mel got in touch with one of the authors from Tales of the Gold Monkey... he seems quite approachable, and shared some stories with us about his memories.
The letter he wrote can be found at

http://www.fentonnet.com/smithway/rm/greene.html

--Roc

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Subject: RM whereabouts

If anyone wanted to know where RM was two weekends ago, I know:

The Hollywood Reporter dated October 29, 1996

Meanwhile, over the weekend on Long Island, there was another
gathering of stars, also brought together by (David)Gest, part of a benefit for the Cinema Arts Center in Huntington, L.I. That's the area's only full-time, not-for-profit community cinema that, since 1973, has been showcasing international films and fil mmakers via screenings, workshops and seminars. Seven stars were honored at Saturday's do: Jane Powell, June Allyson, Jane Russell, Gwen Verdon, Ann Rutherford, Janet Leigh and Mills, all of whom, except Powell, will be at Gest's party Saturday in L.A. ( Jane P. will be traveling in Europe). Among those at the Long Island festivities were Chita Rivera, Roddy McDowall, Lee Meriwether, Eddie Bracken, Ruth Warrick, Margaret O'Brien, Red Buttons, Freda Payne and Petula Clark, the latter taking a breather from London's "Sunset Boulevard."

...Sally..

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Subject: RE: HEADS UP!--RM TV GUIDE--

ya know, I sure wish my cable company had the channels that RM seems to = frequent! The don't have Sci-Fi, FOXM, STARZ, or even the CARTOON netwo= rk. :(

Life ain't fair.

-Paul
crah@toolcity.net

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Subject: Gosh!

Hello Gang!

Not trying to be sarcastic here, but... Wow! Someone *not* on the mailing list signed the guestbook. Now there are a whole 2 entries!

Name : Michael L. White
Website : Don't have one yet (would like to do one on Stella Stevens)
Referred by : Net Search
>From : San Francisco
Time : 1996-10-29 22:40:00
Comments : I think this is a GREAT homepage/Tribute to Roddy! I'm a great fan of his. He has worked three times with another performer I am a big fan of - Stella Stevens. Take care :) Michael


For those of you who missed it the first time, the guestbook URL is:

http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=musgrave

.... signing is encouraged?

Shrug.

--Roc

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Subject: RE: HEADS UP!--RM TV GUIDE--

> ya know, I sure wish my cable company had the channels that RM seems to =
> frequent! The don't have Sci-Fi, FOXM, STARZ, or even the CARTOON netwo=
> rk. :(
>
> Life ain't fair.
>
> -Paul
> crah@toolcity.net
>
Paul, you should keep writing and phoning them and asking for those channels. A lot of people on my other lists have done that and their cable companies now carry the channels they want!

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
'Hollywood North')!! E-mail address via Internet is be028@torfree.net.

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Subject: RE: HEADS UP!--RM TV GUIDE--

RMGROUP's Paul W. wrote:

>ya know, I sure wish my cable company had the channels that RM seems >to frequent! The don't have Sci-Fi, FOXM, STARZ, or even the CARTOON
>network. :(
>
>Life ain't fair.

Nope, I guess not. If it were, you'd be married to someone your own age. :-p

...Sally..

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Subject: RE: RE: HEADS UP!....

>
>Life ain't fair.

Nope, I guess not. If it were, you'd be married to someone your own age. :-p

Gee, Sally, What ever do you mean????


(old timers. Sheesh!) :)
-Paul
crah@toolcity.net

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Subject: RM sighting

I've just watched E! News Daily and unless I need new contact lenses, that was RM I saw in their (very) brief coverage of the 11th Annual American Cinema Award (happened on a Saturday? in LA). Roddy was assisting Bob Hope while Elizabeth Taylor presented a special award to Bob Hope.

Can anybody confirm this? Sally?

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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Subject: RE: RE: HEADS UP!....


>Paul, you should keep writing and phoning them and asking for those
>channels. A lot of people on my other lists have done that and their
>cable companies now carry the channels they want!

I tried that in the last town I lived in. For three years... I called and=
asked if they had or were getting these channels. They always told me =
they couldn't, not with the equipment they had. Shortly before I left, =
I finally got a 'getting it' message. However, it wouold take them at =
least two years... sigh.

Up here, we're lucky to have more channels, but alot are repeat stations=
. (2 NBCs, 2ABCs, etc) I'll keep working on them tho. Maybe I'll get =
lucky.


-Paul
crah@toolcity.net

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Subject: RE: Gosh!

Hi guys,

After having read this, I felt guilty and tried to sign in.

> Not trying to be sarcastic here, but... Wow! Someone *not* on the
>mailing list signed the guestbook. Now there are a whole 2 entries!
> For those of you who missed it the first time, the guestbook URL is:
>http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=musgrave

Unfortunately, my computer denies me access to this site and I've been
thrown out of the Roddy site twice now (Friday and today - Monday). So,
sorry, I can't sign in.

Will try again later.

Janeen

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Subject:

RMGROUP wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> After having read this, I felt guilty and tried to sign in.
>
> > Not trying to be sarcastic here, but... Wow! Someone *not* on the
> >mailing list signed the guestbook. Now there are a whole 2 entries!
> > For those of you who missed it the first time, the guestbook URL is:
> >http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=musgrave
>
> Unfortunately, my computer denies me access to this site and I've been
> thrown out of the Roddy site twice now (Friday and today - Monday). So,
> sorry, I can't sign in.
>
> Will try again later.
>
> Janeen

Hi Janeen!

There seem to be frequent outages with the guestbook server (which is something that I, unfortunately, can't control) ... but your inability to reach the guestbook could also be something with your access provider and assorted complicated permissions and domains and other such ka-ka.

I appreciate the effort, and thank you very much, but - please - don't waste any concern over it, okay?

As for being "thrown out" of the Roddy site ... NOT SO!

Let me rephrase.... There are no access restrictions on *any* of my websites, and nothing a user can do that would cause them to be "thrown out". You probably experienced connection or server failure, but it wasn't the site itself. I would never throw anyone out, at least, I would never throw an RM fan out of the RM site!

If you continue to have this problem, write to me at the kuryakin address and I will get more details from you and see what can be done...

Thanks again for giving the guestbook a try, though!

:-)

--Roc

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Subject: RE: RM sighting

At 11/12/96 RMGROUP's Mel wrote:

>I've just watched E! News Daily and unless I need new contact lenses,
>that was RM I saw in their (very) brief coverage of the 11th Annual
>American Cinema Award (happened on a Saturday? in LA). Roddy was
>assisting Bob Hope while Elizabeth Taylor presented a special award to
>Bob Hope.
>
>Can anybody confirm this? Sally?


Don't think you need contact lenses yet! I was aware of the American Cinema Awards thing on that Saturday in LA but there was nothing in black n white listing RM being there. I figured he would be there just because everybody who was anybody was RSVPing to attend the Awards. It wasn't just Bob Hope being presented an award but also Shirley MacLaine, Morgan Freeman, Richard Dreyfuss, Susan Lucci, Alex Spanos, Donna and John Crean and American Airlines' Jack Williams.

I'm sure Roddy had his camera on hand too.

I don't live in LA, but I doubt Roc could of been admitted without an invitation. ;-)

...Sally..

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Subject: Gold Monkey

(mel crying out plaintively) Hasn't anybody read Tom Greene's letters?
Do I tell him, "Sorry, Tom, nobody was interested"?

The url is http://www.fentonnet.com/smithway/rm/greene.html.

Don't say anything, Sally and Roc ...

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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Subject: RE: RM sighting YES!

Anything Liz dose Roddy will be there! They grew up together! They A
BUDDIES

Hlovatt@aol.com

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Subject: RE: >>>> RM TV Guide<<<<

Carol may come on later....
After banking hours, yes, but not before my work day is finished. I'f =
I'm lucky, I'll get out of work at 7:30 EARLIEST, scheduled till 8:00, =
and most likey not to get out till closer to 8:30.
I'll try to set the VCR, but it's been giving me problems alot lately. =
Keep your fingers crossed.

-Paul
crah@toolcity.net

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Subject: Going on a Trip

Happy Sunday Morning, All!

Looks like I'll be away from home for about 5 days... From this Wednesday evening to Monday or Tuesday.... My father and I are driving out to Texas to see my brother graduate his Air Force training (out in, what is it, Lackland? Near San Antonio, roughly...)

Anyway, list messages may slow during this time... and, unless I find a laptop with a Ricochet modem in it, I wont be online or retreiving mail on my personal account, either.

Dana.... (and any other Texans on the list i may have forgotten)... am I going to be passing by or anywhere near you? Maybe we can get in something more than five minutes at the airport this time....

--Roc

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Subject: Tom Greene, 1

Okay, okay, so I'm a bit behind doing this....

Mel got in touch with one of the writer/producers from Tales of the Gold Monkey, and here is the first exchange from that "meeting" as taken from our webpages:

go here

NEXT MESSAGE: has Tom's next message!!

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Subject: Tom Greene, 2

Okay folks, here is the second message between Tom and Mel.....

go here

I replied that Roddy's fingerprints would make a great gif file.

--Mel

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Subject: NEW MEMBER

Happy Monday Everyone!

Well, we have another new kid to add to our ranks.
Everyone give a hearty hello to


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      |  |   _   |    \ |   | _____|__    __|
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|________|__| |__|___| \____|______|  |__|
 
 

whose request to join message follows....

>> (QZUZ21D@prodigy.com (MRS JANET L SEMONES), 13:09)
>> >>
>>
>> My name is Janet Semones. I'm a Roddy McDowall fan from way back.
>> I'm now 43 years old. If you have a RM mailing list I'd like to be
>> on it. Thanks.

--Roc

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Subject: RE: Guestbook

Hi Roc,

I'm sorry that I gave the impression that the site "threw" me out - I
knew that it was my computer's fault - my profoundest apologies.

> Let me rephrase.... There are no access restrictions on *any* of my
>websites, and nothing a user can do that would cause them to be "thrown
>out". You probably experienced connection or server failure, but it
>wasn't the site itself. I would never throw anyone out, at least, I
>would never throw an RM fan out of the RM site!
> If you continue to have this problem, write to me at the kuryakin
>address and I will get more details from you and see what can be done...

Thank you Roc. Hopefully my computer/server will sort themselves out.

Roc, I have another question for you. Once when I was internet surfing I saw another one of your websites and I can't remember which one it was. I'm sure that I'm not the only one interested in this, could you tell us about your other websites.

Thanks Janeen

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Subject: RE: Gold Monkey

Dear Mel,

>(mel crying out plaintively) Hasn't anybody read Tom Greene's letters?
>Do I tell him, "Sorry, Tom, nobody was interested"?

I did read it straight away (well as soon as my computer let me) - I'm sorry that I didn't comment about it. I did send a text copy to my friend Lynne in Toronto as she doesn't have web access. I loved the letter!!!!

I was actually recently at a convention that Dave McDonnell (editor of Starlog) and had a chat to him about a few things. I told him very briefly about the contents of the letter, and he said that he loves to hear stories like that.

And thanks Roc for sending a text copy to the list as well as the next letter. I appreciate that you doing that.

Thanks Mel for the work involved in writing to and then following through with the letter. it was most enjoyable.

Janeen

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Subject: RE: Tom Greene2

On 11/17/96 RMGROUP's Mel wrote:

>Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:28:34 -0500
>Subject: Re: Tales of the Gold Monkey

<< Just a few questions:
>...

Well, Mel, you had great questions to ask Tom Greene. Is he ripe
for my underwear question now? ;->

...Sally..

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Subject: RE: Going on a trip

On 11/17/96 RMGROUP's Roc wrote:

>Looks like I'll be away from home for about 5 days... From this
>Wednesday evening to Monday or Tuesday.... My father and I are driving >out to Texas to see my brother graduate his Air Force training (out in, >what is it, Lackland? Near San Antonio, roughly...)
>...

Have a nice vacation, Roc! And if you get the inkling to keep on
driving, I'm always home, drop on by.

...Sally..

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Subject: RE: Gold Monkey

> (mel crying out plaintively) Hasn't anybody read Tom Greene's letters?
> Do I tell him, "Sorry, Tom, nobody was interested"?

Actually, I visited the site within 48hrs of the original post, as I was a *really big* fan of Gold Monkey. If you've got a counter set to register hits to that page, I wonder if it is working...

Our area doesn't have a decent TV guide, so it was a pleasant surprise to hear that yesterday morning's Pinky and the Brain was a "Snowball" ep [RM's voice]. My husband better not have erased that tape, or he's in trouble!

:-) Laura

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Subject: RE: New Member

Hello there, Janet! Welcome to the group. Don't be shy (what am I saying? Is anyone in rmgroup shy? We can be quiet for a stretch, like lately (hint hint) but not shy, right, guys?), jump right in and join the fun.

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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Subject: RE: Gold Monkey

On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, JANEEN wrote:
> I was actually recently at a convention that Dave McDonnell (editor
> of Starlog) and had a chat to him about a few things. I told him
> very briefly about the contents of the letter, and he said that he
> loves to hear stories like that.
Did you tell him we'd love to see another RM interview in Starlog? The last article was ten years ago!
> Thanks Mel for the work involved in writing to and then following
> through with the letter. it was most enjoyable.
Thanks, I enjoyed it too. And Tom was quite approachable, and answered my second letter quite promptly.
If anyone else has questions for Tom, well, I'd love to have an excuse to nudge him for more memories. No, Sally, not that question yet - it might scare him off.

(which reminds me, still no feedback about that packet you sent RM, Sally?)

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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Subject: RE: New Member

Hello Janet!!

Welcome to our little RMGROUP. We are happy to have you aboard.
Hopefully we can enlighten you on the events and goings on of
our favorite actor. Feel free you ask questions of your fellow
inmates or primates, as the case may be.

...Sally..

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Subject: RE: RM cruise

At 12:33 PM 10/18/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>MEL asked:
>>>So that makes two sinkings and two safe cruises, so far. Anybody
>>>got more info?
>
>SALLY replied:
>>Let's see. In Bullwhip Griffin RM stowed away on a cargo ship but it
>>didn't sink, and also in The Longest Day, RM had a brief part as a
>>soldier on a cruiser (I believe) crossing the Atlantic Ocean but it
>>didn't sink either. I think in The Wind in the Willows (haven't
>>watched it in awhile) Ratty's row boat sunk during his excursion to
>>broaden his horizons.
>
>I think he only crossed the English Channel in The Longest Day. But,
>see, what you've said proves my point - the ship sinks only when he's
>a crew member, not when he's a passenger. Another example: his ship
>in Cleopatra didn't sink either (was Octavian sea sick in that
>scene?).
>
>At the rate we're going, we can have a trivia book already - Brian's
>research on death scenes, Nancy B.'s hamster question, ship sinkings,
>underw--- (never mind), etc.
>
Hmmm...now, how many times did he die as a result of a shipwreck? :)

Brian.

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Subject: RE: Tidbits DE V

At 05:28 PM 11/4/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey Ya'll,
>
>Did you knoe thah RODDY is also the voice of"The Breadmaster" on the Sat.,
>morning cartoon........The TICK? Yep!!!! :) :) :) So please write
>to The Tick doll Co., and see if they'll make a "Breadmaster" action
>figure!!!!!!!
>
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I just saw a Breadmaster episode that
sounded like it was done by the original Strawberry Shortcake cooking
menace. Anyone know why RM didn't continue with this role?

Brian.

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Subject: RE: Tom Greene2

On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, SALLY wrote:

> Well, Mel, you had great questions to ask Tom Greene. Is he ripe
> for my underwear question now? ;->

Tough question.

I could cop out and ask Roc to decide.

I could also tell Tom I don't know anybody named Sally.

But if you do ask Tom, don't forget to write me his answer.

:) :) :)

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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Subject: Another New Kid

Hello Again Folks!

These things always seem to go in bunches, don't they?

We have yet another new member to the group. Yesterday we all met Janet, today we all meet our newest friend


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|   __  \| ____| \  \/  / __| |__|   |\     |
|__|  \__|______| \ __ / |_______|___| \____|
 
         

... And I'm sure we'd all love to see a message from Kevin and Janet telling us a bit about themselves and how they came to be interested in RM in the first place... Right?

--Roc

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Subject: RE: Going on a trip

SALLY wrote:
>
> On 11/17/96 RMGROUP's Roc wrote:
>
> >Looks like I'll be away from home for about 5 days... From this
> >Wednesday evening to Monday or Tuesday.... My father and I are driving >out
> to Texas to see my brother graduate his Air Force training (out in, >what is
> it, Lackland? Near San Antonio, roughly...)
> >...
>
> Have a nice vacation, Roc! And if you get the inkling to keep on
> driving, I'm always home, drop on by.

Seems I had my dates confused... We won't be leaving *this* Wednesday, but *next* Wednesday... I'm still trying to imagine how I'm going to survive a 28 hour drive with my father... What are we going to talk about for 28 hours!?!

And, Sally, keeping that in mind... are you sure you'd want me and my dad dropping in on you after that....????

;-)

--Roc

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Subject: RE: Tom Greene2

RMGROUP wrote:
>
> On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, SALLY wrote:
>
> > Well, Mel, you had great questions to ask Tom Greene. Is he ripe
> > for my underwear question now? ;->
>
> Tough question.
>
> I could cop out and ask Roc to decide.

Oh no you don't! You're not dragging me into this one!

;-)

> > I could also tell Tom I don't know anybody named Sally.

(looking around the room...) Sally who?

> > But if you do ask Tom, don't forget to write me his answer.

... which you will promptly forward to me, right?

No, wait... Come to think of it, I don't *want* to know the answer...

--Roc

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Subject: RE: Another New Kid

> Hello Again Folks!
>
> These things always seem to go in bunches, don't they?
>
> We have yet another new member to the group. Yesterday we all met
> Janet, today we all meet our newest friend

  __     _                         
 |  |  /  |______ __    __ _______ ____   ___
 |  |/   /| _____|  \  /  /__   __|    \ |   |
 |   __  \| ____| \  \/  / __| |__|   |\     |
 |__|  \__|______| \ __ / |_______|___| \____|

          
> ... And I'm sure we'd all love to see a message from Kevin and Janet
> telling us a bit about themselves and how they came to be interested in RM
> in the first place... Right?
>
>
> --Roc

Shucks Folks...I'm speechless. :-)

kevinb@applix.com

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Subject: Newbie

Hi gang!

My name is Kevin. I am a great fan of Mr. McDowell's work, from "Poseidon Adventure", to "Flicka" to the "Ape" movies & TV series, "Fright Night I & II" and so forth.

Roc referred me to this list in order to ask of you all that if any of you have episodes of "Fantastic Journey", I'd love to get some decent copies of this show with Roddy. I look forward to reading some of the other subjects that may crop up from time to time about Roddy's career, which I consider to be amazingly diverse.

I don't have a lot to offer in exchange, but I do have "Legend of Hell House" and the "Fright Night" movies on tape which I'd gladly offer up for trade.

Please contact me at kevinb@applix.com or kbaldwin@ultranet.com to set something up.

My sincerest appreciation for your time in reading this.

Kevin Baldwin

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Subject: RE: Guestbook

RMGROUP wrote:
>
> Hi Roc,
>
> I'm sorry that I gave the impression that the site "threw" me out - I
> knew that it was my computer's fault - my profoundest apologies.

Time to play The Apology Exchange...

Nothing to be sorry about, I just wanted to make sure you didn't think you were being picked on or anything... ya know?

I'd like to make a request of EVERYONE, though... Anytime you experience any difficulties with the site, please let me know - even if you think the problem is on your end... It will help me make sure the site is always running properly.

>
> Roc, I have another question for you. Once when I was internet surfing
> I saw another one of your websites and I can't remember which one it
> was. I'm sure that I'm not the only one interested in this, could you
> tell us about your other websites.

Ah, nothing like a little egoboo to make me smile...!!!

:-)

It's true; I have slightly more than 50 megabytes of info on the net that I maintain.

To see my "personal" homepage, go to:

http://www.fentonnet.com/smithway/index.html

To go straight to (one of the largest) archive of sf fandom material, set your browser to:

http://www.fentonnet.com/smithway/archive.html

Fans of Irish music might want to check out (changes in progress):

http://www.fentonnet.com/smithway/fenians/fenians.html

Fans of X-Files might like my picture index at:

http://www.fentonnet.com/smithway/xft/thumbs.html

--Roc

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Subject: Re: Another New Kid

Hello Kevin,

I wish to extend a warm welcome to you to our group. We don't make much chatter but when we do, you'll hear about it.

...Sally..

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Subject: RE: Going on a trip

On 11/17/96 RMGROUP's Roc wrote:

>>Looks like I'll be away from home for about 5 days...

and Sally wrote:
>>Have a nice vacation, Roc! And if you get the inkling to keep on
>>driving, I'm always home, drop on by.
>>...Sally..

If Roc's going to drive all the way from LA to visit you Sally, Let me = know and I'll head to Cleveland myself!

-Paul

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Subject: RM packet

On 11/19/96 RMGROUP's Mel wrote:

>...
>(which reminds me, still no feedback about that packet you sent RM, Sally?)

Do you think if RM answered me I wouldn't be screaming it across the ends of the earth? ;-) Alas, I've heard nada peep from him.

I sent a few questions to Stephen Collins and told him to say hello to RM for me. :-> Hey, I'll try anything I can to get RM to remember to look over that packet. Not that he would remember who Sally Mierop was, but ...

...Sally..

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Subject: RE: RM cruise

>At the rate we're going, we can have a trivia book already - Brian's
>research on death scenes, Nancy B.'s hamster question, ship sinkings,

Hey, can we re-post the death vs life roles? I think I may have missd it....

-Paul

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Subject: RM cruise, packet, underwear, POTA, etc.

Talk about overwhelming response. I comment about rmgroup being quiet lately and now my mailbox is overloaded. Thanks, people, especially to those who responded when I asked (well, okay, wailed) if anybody had read Tom Greene's letters.

--------------------

BRIAN wrote re: RM Cruise
>Hmmm...now, how many times did he die as a result of a shipwreck? :)

Hey, Brian, where have you been? I thought you'd forsaken us. But to answer your question - offhand, I can think only of the Poseidon Adventure. The ship also sank in The Memory of Eva Ryker, and the row boat in Wind in the Willows, but his character survived the sinking (that's not to mean that his character survived the film).

So we have ship sinkings/drowning, car crashes, bullets (at least four times), laser, fall (how did he die in Poseidon? from the fall or from drowning?), compression, stabbing, poisoning ... What else? I can't remember how he bought it in It!. I think there was only one death from natural causes - a heart attack in Earth Angel (but don't switch channels yet; most of his appearances are as a spirit).

Here's a bit of unrelated trivia: RM played a photographer in Million Dollar Face.

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PAUL wrote re: RM Cruise
>Hey, can we re-post the death vs life roles? I think I may have missd
>it....

Well, since you're ransacking your vault to look for that Quantum Leap comics with the RM photo as a favor to me because I'm an RM fan, I will return the favor and hunt my files for the death vs life emails.

--------------------

KEVIN wrote re: Newbie
>My name is Kevin. I am a great fan of Mr. McDowell's
********** Sally! This is your responsibility ...

>if any of you have episodes of "Fantastic Journey", I'd love to get
>some decent copies of this show with Roddy

I'd love to have copies, too, decent or indecent :). Maybe it'll be shown again on the Sci-Fi Channel.

--------------------

SALLY wrote re: RM packet
>>still no feedback about that packet you sent RM, Sally?
>Do you think if RM answered me I wouldn't be screaming it across
>the ends of the earth? ;-) Alas, I've heard nada peep from him.
>I sent a few questions to Stephen Collins and told him to say hello
>to RM for me. :-> Hey, I'll try anything I can to get RM to
>remember to look over that packet. Not that he would remember who
>Sally Mierop was, but ...

Well, if somebody sent me a hundred-page packet, I'd certainly remember. How about if you send him the additions in the website (esp. Tom's letters) and say that you're also following up on the first packet? If you're lucky, you can get another autographed return card :).

Since you've also gotten in touch with Collins, now you can ask either Tom or Stephen that underwear question. After all, Stephen was also in the tub. Further to this, sorry, Roc, as you're our fearless leader (quiet, Sally), you get dragged in whether you like it or not :).

--------------

The Sci-Fi Channel will be showing the POTA TV series again, at 6pm EST from Monday to Friday. The first showing will be on December 20th, then will resume starting December 30th. Check their website (http://www.scifi.com) for updates on the schedule. They'll also be airing the Night Gallery pilot on December 26th at 3pm EST. It's so lovely to know what I'll be missing.

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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Subject: death vs life

Okay, Paul, here are the death vs life emails. It all started when Nancy asked for "Favorite RM moments" and I responded with memorable death scenes ... and then Brian got really morbid and changed the subject to "# of Death scenes".

--Mel
rcsantos@pusit.admu.edu.ph

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Subject: Favorite RM moments?

I'm sure we've shared some before, but I'd love to hear some other favorite Roddy McDowall moments. I channel surfed into the middle of My Friend Flicka the other day and it made me remember one of mine -- the scene with Ken and Hildy, where he points out that Flicka is smiling, so she must like him. And Hildy protests, "Aw, that just means she has gas!" Great delivery from the young actress, and little Roddy himself is just priceless. Makes me laugh every time! Even just thinking about it makes me laugh! Others? --Nancy
strocco@moran.com Games I like to play at cocktail parties: "Hey, I think that guy over there likes you! Look, he's smiling our way!" "Aw... that just means he's got gas!"

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Subject: Re: Favorite RM moments?

At 11:21 PM 8/22/96 -0700, strocco@moran.com wrote:
>I'm sure we've shared some before, but I'd love to hear some other
>favorite Roddy McDowall moments.

Well my first experiences with RM's work were with my childhood, and actually I had no idea who RM was at the time, he was just a voice which seemed to reappear in some of favorite animated features. I always found that his subtle tones could evoke great pathos for the characters he spoke for no matter who or what that person was, especially as Ratty in Wind in the Willows. Why'd Ratty have to go away? why? why? :( err, um...anyways...

I've always felt, though, that Roddy's most powerful voice-over was in Return of the King when Samwise goes on that power trip after getting the ring of doom...the background music was absolutely perfect.

I'm just so glad his vocal talents have not gone unnoticed in today's television. My favorite role of his nowadays is his portrayal of Batman's Mad Hatter. (Jeez he can really put a good deal of depth into the character of an afternoon cartoon show...now that's showmanship! The final moments of the episode 'Mad as a Hatter' almost brought a tear to my eye...almost). If you haven't heard RM yet on Batman I'd strongly recommand flippin' over to the show to see if he's on every once in a while. Also, anyone with access to Batman: The Animated Series info: Are the makers planning on releasing any new episodes for the coming season? And if so, any word on the Mad Hatter?

CUL8TR,
Brian
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. --Lewis Carroll

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Subject: Re: Favorite RM moments?

> I'm sure we've shared some before, but I'd love to hear some other
> favorite Roddy McDowall moments. I channel surfed into the middle of
> My Friend Flicka the other day and it made me remember one of mine --
> the scene with Ken and Hildy, where he points out that Flicka is
> smiling, so she must like him. And Hildy protests, "Aw, that just
> means she has gas!" Great delivery from the young actress, and
> little Roddy himself is just priceless. Makes me laugh every time!
> Even just thinking about it makes me laugh!
>
> Others?
>
> --Nancy

> strocco@moran.com

My favorite moments are just about any scene with Roddy in them from How Green was My Valley. I'm so glad he was a part of this historic film history film. I never tire of watching it and I never fail to cry.

Kyoko

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Subject: Re: Favorite RM moments?

On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, NANCY wrote:

> I'm sure we've shared some before, but I'd love to hear some other
> favorite Roddy McDowall moments.

Not so much favorite moments, but some of his characters do have memorable death scenes. Like in Poseidon Adventure (*kaboom* AAAAAAAH *splash*), or in Arnold where the clothes he was fitting on proved to be a tight squeeze, or in Dead of Winter where he was stabbed with an ice pick right through his palm and into his neck (you could say his death was not pointless).

Morbid, aren't I?

--Mel
"If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too?"

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Subject: Re: Favorite RM Moments

Judy Schwartz writes:

How about "Bookworm", atleast that's who I think his character was on the old BATMAN series.

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Subject: [Fwd: Re: Favorite RM moments?]

At 05:01 PM 8/23/96 -0700, you wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, NANCY wrote:
>
>> I'm sure we've shared some before, but I'd love to hear some other
>> favorite Roddy McDowall moments.
>
>Not so much favorite moments, but some of his characters do have
>memorable death scenes. Like in Poseidon Adventure (*kaboom* AAAAAAAH
>*splash*), or in Arnold where the clothes he was fitting on proved to
>be a tight squeeze, or in Dead of Winter where he was stabbed with
>an ice pick right through his palm and into his neck (you could say
>his death was not pointless).
>
>Morbid, aren't I?
>
>--Mel
>"If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too?"

I know what you mean. When I finally came to the conclusion that I was a RM fan, I went out one weekend and rented as many titles as I could afford with him in it, and I kept wondering if producers/writers would purposely make us love his characters just so they could kill him off later on, and make us feel terribly depressed. By the way RM recently died in a made for TV murder mystery, which also starred Wil Shatner, and Morgan Fairchild...anyone remember the name? (Something about Death Island I think)

I would also like to add that because of all of RM's death scenes I found it quite refreshing (and maybe borderline humorous) that RM was the survivor of Hell House.

BCNUA,
Brian

P.S. That's not morbid. This is morbid:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The Sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." --H.P. Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Subject: Re: (no subject)

At 8/24/96 2:15pm RMLIST's Brian replied to Mel:
>...
>By the way RM recently died in a made for TV murder mystery, which also
>starred Wil Shatner, and Morgan Fairchild...anyone remember the name?
>(Something about Death Island I think)

That was Dead Man's Island.

>I would also like to add that because of all of RM's death scenes I
>found it quite refreshing (and maybe borderline humorous) that RM was
>the survivor of Hell House.

Yes, one would of anticipated his dying in the movie because he was the only survivor of the first party.

AT 8/24/96 2:18pm RMLIST's Brian wrote:
>...
>Can anyone think of one movie I can rent this weekend where RM gets top
>billing?

Let me see, there's always The Adventures of Bullwhip Griffin, The Thief of Baghdad (don't think you can rent the first two though), Mirror, Mirror 2: Raven Dance, Fright Night I and II, Lord Love A Duck or The Dead of Winter. Also, RM does appear quite frequently in The Alien Within and 5 Card Stud.

I hope at least one is available for renting.

...Sally..

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Subject: Favorite RM Moments

>How about "Bookworm", atleast that's who I think his character was
>on the old BATMAN series.

That's right, Judy. The genius with the funny eyeglasses and wrong Spanish.

------------

AT 8/24/96 2:18pm RMLIST's Brian wrote:

>Can anyone think of one movie I can rent this weekend where RM gets
>top billing?

And Sally replied:

>Let me see, there's always The Adventures of Bullwhip Griffin,
>The Thief of Baghdad (don't think you can rent the first two though),
>Mirror, Mirror 2: Raven Dance, Fright Night I and II,
>Lord Love A Duck or The Dead of Winter. Also, RM does appear
>quite frequently in The Alien Within and 5 Card Stud.

Gee, I can't believe you forgot the POTA movies! They *are* available on tape, aren't they? I seem to remember my sister telling me she got all five :)

I dug up a newspaper clipping I saved re Thief of Baghdad. Near the end of filming, "the flying carpet on which they were eloping managed to drop Roddy McDowall and Marina Vlady some 12 feet. Happily, they were not hurt although they were hospitalized for a day."

------------

>By the way RM recently died in a made for TV murder mystery, which
>also starred Wil Shatner, and Morgan Fairchild...anyone remember the
>name? (Something about Death Island I think)
>>That was Dead Man's Island.

AAAAUUUGGGHHHH!!! I haven't seen that movie yet! Thanks a lot, Brian! :) (oops! I apologize to all the list members who haven't seen Poseidon Adventure, Arnold, or Dead of Winter yet). I've only seen the stills Roc put in the website. Let me guess, did he get clobbered with a tennis racket? beaned with a tennis ball? died of an asthmatic attack after sniffing the flowers? NO! NO! NO! DON'T TELL ME!!!

--Mel
"Cannot find REALITY.SYS. Universe halted."

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Subject: # of Death scenes

Looking back on the RM movies I've seen to date, I can count more times where RM dies in films than he lives! I'd be very interested to find out what the exact ratio of live characters to dead ones is. I'm making it my goal to find out. I don't want to name movies as that might spoil it for others, but he's had quite a few death scenes...and I must say when RM goes he always goes out in style.

The best death scene ever would have to be (and I'm not going to use the actual title) in a little film which has a finale similar to Hitchcock's The Man Who Knew Too Much, and co-starred a young actor who had yet to receive a middle initial. If you can guess the film, would you agree that that was one heck of a way to go?

Brian

"While, like a ghastly rapid river, Through the pale door, A hideous throng rush out forever, And laugh--but smile no more." --Edgar Allen Poe, "The Haunted Palace"

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Subject: RM Parts I'd Like to See ...

[snip]

>The best death scene ever would have to be (and I'm not going to use
>the actual title) in a little film which has a finale similar to
>Hitchcock's The Man Who Knew Too Much, and co-starred a young actor
>who had yet to receive a middle initial. If you can guess the film,
>would you agree that that was one heck of a way to go?

Is the young actor MF? Does the film have another SciFi actor with initials SA who starred in LOTG, and have a scene involving rabbits? If that *is* the (trashy) movie, yup, that would be another memorable death scene (*vrrooom* AAAAAAH *crash*).

--Mel

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Subject: Re: # of deaths

BRIAN challenged:

> ... in a little film which has a finale similar to Hitchcock's The
> Man Who Knew Too Much, and co-starred a young actor who had yet to
> receive a middle initial. If you can guess the film, would you agree
> that that was one heck of a way to go?

You are a truly wicked and evil man, Brian ... my poor old brain is in no condition to figure this out right now and so it's going to nag me all through my convention and into next week. God'll getcha fer this... and if god don't, *I* will.... ;-)

--Roc

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Subject: Re: # of deaths

BRIAN challenged:
> > ... in a little film which has a finale similar to Hitchcock's The
> > Man Who Knew Too Much, and co-starred a young actor who had yet to
> > receive a middle initial. If you can guess the film, would you
> > agree that that was one heck of a way to go?

ROC wept:
> You are a truly wicked and evil man, Brian ... my poor old brain
> is in no condition to figure this out right now and so it's going to
> nag me all through my convention and into next week.
> God'll getcha fer this... and if god don't, *I* will.... ;-)

Hey, Brian! Do we help her out or do we let her be miserable until next week? He, he, I'm feeling wicked today. You better be the one to decide coz you're the one whose life is in danger.

--Mel
"Ever stop to think and forget to start again?"

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Subject: Re: # of deaths

At 03:09 PM 8/28/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>BRIAN challenged:
>
>> > ... in a little film which has a finale similar to Hitchcock's The
>> > Man Who Knew Too Much, and co-starred a young actor who had yet to



>> > receive a middle initial. If you can guess the film, would you
>> > agree that that was one heck of a way to go?
>
>ROC wept:
>
>> You are a truly wicked and evil man, Brian ... my poor old brain
>> is in no condition to figure this out right now and so it's going to nag
>> me all through my convention and into next week.
>> God'll getcha fer this... and if god don't, *I* will.... ;-)
>
>Hey, Brian! Do we help her out or do we let her be miserable until next
>week? He, he, I'm feeling wicked today. You better be the one to decide
>coz you're the one whose life is in danger.
>
>--Mel
>"Ever stop to think and forget to start again?"

As the great Lewis Carroll once said: (by the way that was a line read by RM in the Batman episode, "The Worry Men")

"'I sent a message to the fish: I told them 'This is what I wish.'

The little fishes of the sea, They sent an answer back to me.

The little fishes' answer was 'We cannot do it, Sir, because--'"

If she wants the answer she can ask for it. ;)

Brian

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Subject: RE: RM packet

So, does this mean that you're going to be jealous if I told you that I received a handwritten thank-you note from Roddy last week for a birthday gift I had sent him?

Dana Brewer

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Subject: RE: Going on a trip

>SALLY wrote:
>>
>> On 11/17/96 RMGROUP's Roc wrote:
>>
>>>Looks like I'll be away from home for about 5 days... From this
>>>Wednesday evening to Monday or Tuesday.... My father and I are driving
>>>out to Texas to see my brother graduate his Air Force training (out in,
>>>what is it, Lackland? Near San Antonio, roughly...)
>>>...
>
>> Have a nice vacation, Roc! And if you get the inkling to keep on
>> driving, I'm always home, drop on by.

RMGROUP's ROC said:

>Seems I had my dates confused... We won't be leaving *this* Wednesday,
>but *next* Wednesday...
>I'm still trying to imagine how I'm going to survive a 28 hour drive
>with my father... What are we going to talk about for 28 hours!?!

Talk? Bring a book along and read while dad's driving and when you're driving put in an audiotape/change the radio station that drives dad crazy. But under no circumstances talk shop.

>And, Sally, keeping that in mind... are you sure you'd want me and my
>dad dropping in on you after that....????

Sure, why not, but remember dad *can't* sleep in Roddy's room but you can. I won't let *any* man have that honor.;-)

...Sally..

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Subject: Re: RM cruise, packet, underwear, POTA, etc

On 11/20/96 RMGROUP's MEL wrote:

>>...

KEVIN wrote re: Newbie
>>My name is Kevin. I am a great fan of Mr. McDowell's
                                            **********
>Sally! This is your responsibility ...

Oh no, not you too KEVIN!!!! Now you know Roddy's last name is spelled M c D o w A l l. I'm sure it was just a typo, right?

>>...

SALLY wrote re: RM packet
>>still no feedback about that packet you sent RM, Sally?
>>Do you think if RM answered me I wouldn't be screaming it across
>>the ends of the earth? ;-) Alas, I've heard nada peep from him.
>>I sent a few questions to Stephen Collins and told him to say hello
>>to RM for me. :-> Hey, I'll try anything I can to get RM to
>>remember to look over that packet. Not that he would remember who
>>Sally Mierop was, but ...

On 11/20/96 RMGROUP's MEL replied:

>Well, if somebody sent me a hundred-page packet, I'd certainly >remember.

Awwww, shucks Mel! :-)

> How about if you send him the additions in the website (esp.
>Tom's letters) and say that you're also following up on the first
>packet? If you're lucky, you can get another autographed return card >:).

Hmmmm....Can't say I was wondering if you got the packet I sent you, cuz I know well he did. I have enuf autographs of his floating around now but, you know, I'm working on RM's whereabouts page for the website and well, I could send that along to him asking if I'm on the right track. Of course, by the time he answered, he'd be finished with those works. Don't want to hound the poor fella to death, now do I? ;->

>Since you've also gotten in touch with Collins, now you can ask either
>Tom or Stephen that underwear question. After all, Stephen was also in
>the tub. Further to this, sorry, Roc, as you're our fearless leader
>(quiet, Sally), you get dragged in whether you like it or not :).

Roc who?

...Sally..

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